Why Tovah Cook Believes Daily Micro-Actions Are the Best Path to Activism *and* Creativity

Tovah Cook

The idea of daily actions can feel like a lot. Daily exercises in creativity designed to help you blossom can feel stressful, like another to-do. Taking time every day to take action, support your community, dismantle archaic systems, and help others thrive can feel even more daunting — the work of an activist, a fighter, someone with that elusive resource, time. But as you might have guessed, we've got an inspiring story that will have you taking action every day, in ways you might not expect. Meet Tovah Cook, designer, dancer, ceramicist, and author of Black Binder, a notebook of curated prompts to steer anti-racist questions and topics into actions and solutions. A calming presence with a thoughtful demeanor, Tovah is a creator who pours intention, soul, and heart into everything she creates. Her own exploration of anti-racism and Black history is what inspired her to create Black Binder in the midst of *so* much coming to the surface in the summer of 2020. Tovah found herself navigating topics and questions she still had much to learn about, and realized others were on a similar journey.

Anjelika Temple here, co-founder of Brit + Co. In collaboration with Represent Collaborative, I had the honor of virtually sitting down to chat with Tovah Cook about her creative process, what inspired her book, and what activism looks like for her on a daily basis. The thing that struck me the most about our conversation was how it ended — I asked if there was anything else she wanted to cover. She replied, "I do have one question. How can I support you?" And that is Tovah in a nutshell — supportive, looking for ways to learn and grow, and always community-first. Read the full interview below.

Anj: Ground us in your roots. Where did you grow up? Where has your creative journey taken you?

Tovah: I'm originally from Texas, a little east of Dallas, called Garland, Texas. I grew up there and lived there all my life until 10 years ago. I went to the University of Houston and studied architecture and environmental design. When I finished school, I started thinking about what my next chapter might look like. Is architecture still something I want to do? I was questioning the idea of form equals function. Then I started taking my master's classes at Academy of Art in graphic design, and that was when I transitioned to the Bay Area. I was only going to be here for a semester or two and I'm still here.

Anj: Oh yes, often how it goes here in Northern California. Your creative practice covers dance, design, ceramics, writing, and more. What do you love about making and designing things?

Tovah: I like not the finished product. I feel a lot of people like the finished product, but I like experimenting in the practice of things. With ceramics, I really like experimenting on different glazes and the outcomes. It's literally a science project because you don't know what those glazes might be or how the clay might react. It just all looks a bit different. And I think that's the same with dance and stuff. I just love learning new moves but not necessarily performing.

Anj: So the learning process and experimental process and figuring it out is where it sounds like you feel your spark. Tell me a little bit more about what the state of creative flow feels like for you, when you're in that moment. Is it a frenzy of activity? Is it a sense of calm that washes over you?

Tovah: It's a little bit of both. I would say last year or for 2020, it was a bit different than other years because one, I got laid off and so I had a bit of extra time. I got laid off the same day that I was moving out of my place, a week prior was when a lot of companies started having all the layoffs. I had decided not to sign a lease because I was a bit nervous that I was going to get laid off. And so I booked an Airbnb for a month thinking that the pandemic was only going to be a month. And that was in Oregon in a small middle-of-nowhere town called Yachats. It was a very unique opportunity for me because it's not my normal experience of how I get creative. I was surrounded by nature. I would go on walks. I would do sunset walks each day to the beach. And there's no one else there on this beach. It was just me. You can really just get surrounded by your thoughts and literally think about something for hours and not feel the pressure of needing to do something. And then I started writing. And I don't think I'm necessarily a good writer. I actually was told multiple times by professors that I was a bad writer. But I started writing anyway. I like writing micro things. So looking at a plant and looking at the fuzziness of it and writing those details. Or I would write the details of how the cabin I was in was built, the light shadows that danced on the walls, the way the wood overlapped. That started getting my creative juices going.

Anj: A natural writer, you brought me to the perfect segue into your writing and Black Binder! What inspired you to create it? Tell us about the moment when you realized you needed to bring this thing into existence.

Tovah: For a couple of years now, I've wanted to create a journal. And so during this time, I was like, "Okay, now's my chance to create this journal." But then seeing everything happening last summer, I felt maybe this could be an opportunity for me to create something meaningful and useful. So it's not just blank pages, but people could get some use out of it. Some friends and people reached out during that time period when everything was happening last year with George Floyd and stuff and asking questions. I would say most of the time I wasn't able to answer at that moment because of sheer exhaustion. And then I think just throughout life, I've been on this journey as a Black person finding my own identity and being a Black person and especially growing up in a mostly white community of learning about the history of who I am and my ancestors. I had to Google questions the same way a white person's Googling these questions last year. And so it's me rethinking those questions and putting it all down and just creating more of an exploration of the stuff that I had to do myself, in a way that people can use themselves.

Anj: I'm curious, since it came from exercises and questions you were asking yourself, who do you think is the ideal audience for the book?

Tovah: When I first created it, I think I wanted it to be more of a workplace book where there's a diversity inclusion team, and people could actually come together and have conversations, almost like a book club. But then I think it expanded on all these different scenarios. I think the audience group is most likely someone who has had privilege and doesn't quite know where to start, or has started a little bit but… I think there are always improvements that we can make. And so the ideal reader is just trying to learn better ways of how they can get more engaged within their community.

Anj: I love that. Talk to me a little more about once someone's engaging, what do you hope they get out of it?

Tovah: I feel a lot of people have assumptions and misconceptions of the Black community. When we look at the statistics and within my book, I have all these spaces where you would have to understand why maybe there's more Black children within the foster care system, or why there are more Black men within the prison system. And so I ask people to write these numbers down. So first, it is the learning, learning why these numbers are here. I want people to have more conversations, more than, "Okay, I read this piece of work." Or, "I've read an anti-racist book and now I'm anti-racist." I want them to see the numbers, see why, and put it into action by getting involved in their community. When you get the book, you'll see that there aren't actually any resources. I don't provide lists of books that you could use to reference because I want people to do their own research themselves. And I want it to be based within the community that they live in, because you could read a book about how to be anti-racist, but it might not be applicable to that area which you live in.

Anj: I know one thing that's a focus point is daily prompts and daily actions. As an activist yourself, what do daily actions look like for you?

Tovah: For my daily action items, I think small in that I think a lot of times people assume that it has to be big. Even right now it's like, "Okay, Biden's going to do all this stuff." We expect it from the top down. And I actually think it happens within our own community and individually. And so I think really small. For MLK Day, I was thinking what can I do within my community? I didn't know what I was going to do that day. But then I went to the grocery store, and I saw a homeless person sitting there on the street and I was like, "Okay, maybe it's just me having a conversation with him." And so I went in and got groceries for him and then withdrew some money to give to him. Because just thinking about Martin Luther King's message — how are we trying to help people? I try to think of it small each day, what am I going to do? It might not be something like donating or giving; it could be me just learning something or me just supporting a friend. It doesn't actually have to be focused on social justice but just creating something and trying to improve your community each day.

Anj: Has activism always been core to your purpose, your personal mission?

Tovah: No. Growing up in Texas, you know the dynamic of people who live there is very different from here in the Bay Area. When I was living there, I was young at the time and I didn't want to talk about politics at all. I didn't know much about it. But then when I do look back, I see how my mom set up ways for us to be activists. Not necessarily like at the scale of Angela Davis. But when we look at it, maybe my mom was an activist in that she was trying to instill this justice within me. I remember in high school, I reached out to our principal because at one point, our principal made the decision that Black children had to cut their hair because it was a distraction in class. So me and my sister contacted the principal, and we got other people to do it. And now that I think of it, I guess that was activism work. But at the time, I just felt I didn't want to talk about it. I didn't want to be involved about it because I just felt everyone was just going to bash me or talk down to me. It's just a lot of weight when everyone disagrees with you. Like, "Am I supposed to have a voice for this? Can I just be on my way? Do I have to have an opinion?"

Anj: My gosh, totally. What areas of advocacy are you focused on at the moment?

Tovah: I feel I put my hands in a whole bunch of different pots. I'm still trying to learn where I want to be because I do think that it's like creating a relationship with an organization or a specific mission. I would say at the moment, there's a few organizations that stand out to me. I've been donating to this organization called Creative Growth. It's a nonprofit that supports individuals with disabilities and helps them create artwork. And this one's in Oakland. I love that mission and what they're doing. And I've been thinking about maybe where I want to be involved and help and provide more support is in that area. Right now, I'm reading a book called Disability Visibility, a compilation of a whole bunch of essays by people with disabilities. Each essay is really powerful and has me thinking about how we can amplify people who have disabilities, their voices more. I feel in 2020, everything was released and it's like, "We're just going to release everything and talk about everything." But I do feel we still could do a lot of work on amplifying people's voices who have disabilities.

Anj: When you're not finding small ways to act and create each day, how do you recharge? So what does self-care look for you on a day-to-day basis?

Tovah: Something that I started putting into my routine, I started putting an ice cube on my face. And it's shocking at first, but it's really soothing in a way. It's supposed to be really good for your skin. And you know when you wash your clothes and they come fresh out of the dryer, and they're really warm? That moment of taking your warm blanket out of the dryer and wrapping yourself with it, that's my favorite feeling in the world. And naps. I like naps.

Anj: What advice do you have for creatives who have an idea or who have a story to tell but have no idea how to put it out in the world or get started?

Tovah: I like to create small wins for myself. A lot of times people make really big goals and having that big goal is good, but along the way, just to keep you inspired, it's good to have small wins. When I created the book, my ultimate goal was to get it published by a big publishing company. I had no way of even creating the book. And like I said earlier, I thought of myself as a really poor writer. But you take it one step at a time. Along the way, you have to get a copyright license and filling out that form feels daunting even though it's not. It's only 20 minutes. If you're doing something for the first time ever, everything just feels so daunting. And so I just create small wins. It's not necessarily like, "I have to do these things at this time." It's just when they happen, it's like, "Okay, let's celebrate and use that as a means to move forward."

So I would just say yes, things will feel daunting but to not let that be a reason to just stop and give up. Most of the time you won't know what you're doing, and that's okay. Just keep on going and be okay with not knowing what you're doing.


Anj: Finally, we want to encourage the REP CO readers to take action. What organizations should our readers know about? What stories should we read or learn about?

Tovah: I read this book last year calledThe Book of Rosy, A Mother's Story of Separation at the Border. It's a beautiful story shared from a mother's point of view. Stories that are often silenced and suppressed. And you can support an organization called Immigrant Families Together, which provides more information about people at the border and how you can help or be a part of the organization. I thought that was really good for people who want to learn about undocumented citizens or get involved in that way. There's also an organization called Impact Justice. That's something I want to learn more about myself, thinking about people who are incarcerated and how we can help them out.

I also subscribed to emails from an organization calledUpturn.org. It provides really hefty reading on different policies and government policies that are happening. There's this one report called Mass Extraction: The Widespread Power of U.S. Law Enforcement to Search Mobile Phones. So if you're really into heavy reading, and you want to understand or just get really passionate about why are the police surveilling us, this is a good organization to look into.

Anj: Awesome. Well, thank you so much. This was so nice chatting. Is there anything else that you want to talk about or make sure we mention?

Tovah: I really do appreciate this conversation. I feel grateful. I do have one more question. Just wondering how I can support you.

Anj: My goodness.

Buy your own copy of Black Binderhere, and be sure to follow Tovah Cook @saint_florence for more inspiration, action, and art.

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Right about now, you're probably searching for the perfect beauty gifts, DIY gifts, gifts for the guy in your life, and an office Secret Santa present. There are endless options to choose from, but it's so much more rewarding when you find a gift that gives back — like when brands offer a percentage of proceeds to nonprofit organizations or match your purchase with a direct gift to those in need. So this year as you're doing your holiday shopping, opt for something that'll help make the world a brighter place. Scroll on for the most stylish, thoughtful, and charitable gifts for everyone on your list.

Shiffon Duet Pinky Ring

Wear solo or in a stack, this adjustable pinky ring is set with a large stone beside a tiny diamond and represents one woman supporting another through a "pinky promise." Fifty percent of profits go back to female-founded companies through the Startup Girl Foundation. ($155)

ABLE Rachel Wristlet

Handcrafted in Ethiopia and Mexico, this stylish leather bag makes the perfect everyday purse. ABLE seeks to end generational poverty by creating jobs for women lacking opportunity. ($98)

Obakki Tumblers

These vintage-inspired water/cocktail glasses are surprisingly lightweight and beautiful on your holiday table. Obakki is committed to transparency and traceability throughout the production process and their foundation, The Obakki Foundation, allows them to give back even more to their partner communities around the world. ($108/set of two)

The Landmark Project X Wildlife Federation Sweatshirt

This unisex sweatshirt is a perfect gift for the outdoorsy person in your life. The Landmark Project partners with the National Wildlife Federation on a new collection for wildlife lovers that gives back! With each purchase from this collection, The Landmark Project will donate 10% to the National Wildlife Federation, directly contributing to their vital environmental and conservation initiatives. ($68)

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Put the cheer in your cheers with this sparkly sparkling that's perf for a NYE toast. Ten percent of your order goes to the nonprofit of your choice. ($49)

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Drama lovers are living large thanks to The Summer I Turned Pretty, Sweet Magnolias, and now My Life With The Walter Boys season 2! The show (which is basically Friday Night Lights meets Dawson's Creek) spent some time at the number one spot on Netflix’s Global English Top 10 TV list (and joined the list in 88 other countries). Netflix renewed it for a sophomore season in December 2023, and the great news is that season 2 just finished filming!

Here's everything you need to know about My Life With the Walter Boys season 2 — and don't forget to watch our interview with the cast, too.

Is there going to be My Life With the Walter Boys season 2?

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Yes, there will be a My Life With the Walter Boys season 2! Netflix renewed the new TV show in December of 2023. The second season started filming in Calgary, Canada on August 14, 2024. Showrunner Melanie Halsall is returning for season 2, as is executive producer Ed Glauser. Becky Hartman Edwards will also serve as an EP.

While there's no book for My Life With the Walter Boys season 2, author Ali Novak revealed her upcoming sequel book won't influence the show, saying “none of the content that I am currently writing will be in the second season. They’ve just taken different directions. Still all the same characters that we love.”

The season recently wrapped in November 2024, and the cast spilled on their post-shoot plans. “We have our apartments for a little bit afterwards, so we’re definitely going to stick around,” star Asbhy Gentry tells TUDUM. The cast also talked about visiting Calgary Zoo, renting bikes, and heading to Banff (in Alberta, Canada), but was distraught when they learned their favorite dessert place had closed its doors. Thankfully, a new place called Cloud Naan came to the rescue. “It’s like Cloud Nine, but with naan,” Ashby says. Now I'm craving naan!

When is the My Life With the Walter Boys season 2 release date?

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We don't have an official release date for My Life With the Walter Boys season 2 yet, but we know it's coming in 2025. Considering season 1, which started streaming in December of 2023, premiered a little over a year after filming ended, it's safe to assume we'll get another December release.

“Season 2 is bigger and better,” creator Melanie Halsall tells TUDUM. “We’ve got massive set pieces in each episode, and the stories are more intricate. We found our feet with our characters, [and] the actors really understand their characters now. When I was coming back, I was excited to start shooting again because I knew we had great stories to tell.”

Who's in the My Life With the Walter Boys season 2 cast?

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Nikki Rodriguez, Noah LaLonde, and Ashby Gentry return as Jackie, Cole, and Alex respectively. We'll see other cast members like Marc Blucas, Johnny Link, Corey Fogelmanis, Connor Stanhope, Dean Petriw, Alix West Lefler, Lennix James, and Sarah Rafferty! Natalie Sharp, Carson MacCormac, Janet Kidder, Riele Downs, and Jake Manley are joining the cast.

What has the cast said about their time on the show?

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The My Life With the Walter Boys cast has loved their time on the show! When the first season dropped, Nikki Rodriguez posted a selfie with Noah LaLonde and Ashby Gentry with the caption "Cheers to the best time of my life."

"NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD," Ashby said in his own Instagram post when the show hit the streaming platform's top spot. "GRATEFUL IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT."

During our own interview with the main trio, they talked about how quickly the bonded on set. "We got deep," Noah told me over Zoom.

"Nothing says bonding like goofing off," Ashby said. "I think it's easy to become a family when you include a little bit of that."

"There's so many topics that the show covers," Nikki added. "Love, loss, grief, family, and chosen family, and I feel like those are all topics we've all experienced and can connect to."

Who does Jackie end up with in My Life with the Walter Brothers in the books?

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In the My Life With the Walter Boys books, Alex and Jackie agree to just be friends after she confesses her feelings to Cole, who then confesses his own feelings in the pouring rain (dreamy!!). In the final episode of the TV show, Jackie confronts Cole after he glued her sister's broken teapot back together, and the two end up kissing. But then Cole finds Jackie has run back to New York City, leaving nothing but an "I'm sorry" note behind.

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Lisa Congdon on Creativity, Activism, and Finding Your Flow

If you're a fan of bright colors, folk art, social justice and heartstring-pulling work, you've definitely seen the art of Lisa Congdon. Lisa's ability to capture complicated feelings and emotions in her work is truly magical. She manages to infuse a breath of fresh air into meaningful stories and heavy topics, and puts just as much care and love into the light and airy pieces she's been creating for over 20 years.

Anjelika Temple here, co-founder of Brit + Co. I first became familiar with Lisa Congdon's work over 10 years ago, when I worked at 20x200 and was in touch with her about an upcoming print edition we were in the midst of producing. Since then, I've been a total fangirl and am deeply honored to be able to share a slice of her creative journey with all of you in this edition of Creative Crushin'.

From her first art show via a Flickr connection to her most recent project, a playful children's picture book called "Round", Lisa is as prolific as she is authentic, genuine and so giving of herself and what she's learned to everyone that's game to learn. Read on and take in the creative inspiration.

Anj: Let's kick things off by getting to know you! What's the quick version of your life story?

Lisa: I was born in upstate New York in a little city called Schenectady, which is outside of the capital, Albany, and that was in 1968. My dad is a scientist. He's retired now. Both my parents are in their 80s now, and my mom is an artist, but she was kind of similar to me, very much a hobby artist, and now takes commissions and does things on a more professional level, even still in her 80s.

I take after her in so many ways. She's a risk taker. She does stuff even though she doesn't know what she's doing. She'll try anything. She doesn't have that kind of perfectionist fear gene that so many people have, and I inherited that from her. That's not to say I don't have fear, it's just that part of why I've made this professional career out of my creativity is that I'm willing to try things even though I don't know what I'm doing.

So in my 20s, when I discovered creativity as a hobby, similar to what my mom was doing, it was kind of a surprise to everyone. I think people expected me to maybe do great things in the world, but not necessarily as an artist. In fact, I thought I was a terrible artist. Then, when I was in my early 30s, so 20 years ago, I went through a big breakup with somebody I had been with for almost a decade, and I changed jobs. I went from working as an elementary school teacher to working in an office.

I think what happened was that I really felt this kind of dearth of creativity in my life. Teaching little kids forces you to make things interesting for them, so you have to be really creative. I went to work at an office job and I found myself kind of depressed. I was lonely because I was single for the first time in my adult life, and I just kind of set up this little art station at my kitchen table. I wouldn't have even called it a studio. I just started experimenting, and I started taking classes at community colleges. At the LGTBQ center, I took this drawing class, and I just kind of fell in love with the process of making.

This was in the early 2000s, so this was at the birth of the Internet... not the birth of the Internet at large, but the birth of the Internet as a space for creative people. Flickr was becoming a thing, blogging was becoming a thing, and there were not yet online classes, Brit + Co, or learning platforms, no social media, but there was this DIY movement happening on the Internet. I started a blog and I started sharing pictures of the crappy stuff I was making. Let's be clear, my work did not look the way it looks now. I was very much a beginner, but I loved it, and I just kept working at it. Then, at some point later on, I realized I could make a living at it if I kind of pivoted in all of the right directions, which included both getting better, developing my skills, but also working on the business side of it, too. So, that's the short long version.

Anj: Tell me more about what it was like when you realized "Hey, maybe this can be my career?" Was there a specific spark or turning point when you thought, "All right, let's see?"

Lisa: One of the moments was in 2006 when I had my first show, and that came about because I think I had posted some images of some stuff on Flickr, which some of you are probably too young to remember. It was this photo-sharing site, which I like to call the original social media, because you could follow people and post your work and like and comment and all the things that are now so normal in our lives. I started meeting people on Flickr, and this woman who owned a store in Seattle asked me if I wanted to have a show. My mind was blown. She asked me if I wanted to have a show because she was seeing the stuff I was making, and I remember sitting at my desk the day that she ... and I was like "Oh my God, this is real." Butterflies and everything. "I'm an artist. Wow, this is so cool!" Then, I started getting inquiries from the hair salon where I went to get my hair done in San Francisco, and there was another little shop in San Francisco called the Candy Store where I had a show, and this was all 2006-2007. So, that started happening. I got an inquiry from Poketo, a brand-new (at the time) Los Angeles-based brand, and I released a bunch of products with them really early on.

So, it was kind of like "Okay, let's see." At the time, this whole idea of being an illustrator was something I couldn't really wrap my head around, but I thought, "All right, maybe if I can figure out the illustration part and do these other things, and then kind of cobble together some kind of income ... " At the time, social media was kind of starting. There was no Instagram yet, but there was Facebook. I made a fan page. I got on Twitter. I had this blog and I just started directing traffic to my blog. I started an Etsy shop in 2007, and I started to make a little bit of money, and in 2008, I was so lucky. I signed with an agent, and slowly, things started to happen. Now, what that didn't equal at the time was money. I was still working part-time at my job and, even after I left my job, I was freelancing for my old education non-profit where I worked because it was so hard in the beginning, but I was determined.

In hindsight, I realized it happened really quickly, but it felt like it took forever, especially to get to the point where I was making enough money to pay my mortgage, buy food, get myself out of debt, and that kind of thing.

Anj: Bringing it back to your creative process, talk to me more about what the creative flow feels like for you, and what you love about making things.

Lisa: We were talking earlier about the excitement I felt when somebody wanted to give me their space to take over to hang art. For me, it's this combination of the enjoyment of making something that, to me, looks cool or is beautiful, interesting, or says something, but it's also about how other people react to it. There's my creative process, which is super satisfying to me because it's problem solving, it's kind of seeing your ideas come to life, and that is all super satisfying.

That's why I think being an artist in this time in history is such a blessing for me because I get to share my work with other people, and then that is super exciting to me, too. I'm really interested in seeing other people's reactions to my work, whether it's through my books or through social media, and that, to me, is just as motivating as the feelings I have when I'm creating something. I got my first taste of that back in the day when I had my first show. There's something about interacting with my audience that I love.

I think people imagine that people like me who do a lot of work and are identified as being prolific, that we sit around all day in this state of flow, and that we're drawing and painting, listening to NPR and classical music, drinking tea, and it's all so easy. I mean, there are definitely days that are like that. There are definitely days where I'm just like "God, I'm the luckiest person on the Earth. I get to do this for a living and I love it," everything's flowing out of me perfectly, and I'm so satisfied with everything I'm doing, but that's maybe 20% of the time, which isn't bad. The rest of the time, it's frustration, deadlines, not being in the mood to draw something but I have to for this job that I accepted two weeks ago, or not having any good ideas. Especially in the beginning, I wasn't as skilled as I am now, so just rendering things that I was supposed to make took longer, and so it was exhausting. So, I do definitely have that flow state sometimes, where I'm just really into it, but most of the time, it's hard.

Anj: Your work is so playful, colorful, a clear folk art influence, and has such a recognizable color palette and aesthetic. How did you hone in on it?

Lisa: You know, I've always been influenced by two of the things that you mentioned, which is folk art and also color. It seems weird to say you're influenced by color, but I really am. I'm drawn to other people's art based on color or lack of, you know what I mean? Or the palette. It's a thing that a lot of artists don't get. They're really good at rendering things, but they don't necessarily have a sense of color. Another thing that has always been a huge influence to me is mid-century art and design. Alexander Girard is my absolute all-time favorite artist. Interestingly, he was also influenced by folk art and was a founder of the Folk Art Museum in Santa Fe. So, he's always the example I give of stylistically. He also was a collector of a lot of things and that's a huge part of my story. I draw a lot of my collections or imaginary collections. I love drawing arrangements of things, so order is also very important to me. I'm always drawing on the imaginary grid.

All of that has sort of been part of my story all along, even when my skillset wasn't as developed as it is now, but I would also say that, and I talk about this a lot: I wrote this book called "Find Your Artistic Voice", and one of the things that people ask me the most is how does one find their style? How does one arrive at a place where things are sort of locked and things are recognizable? For me, I always say I could paraphrase the book in one sentence, which is show up and just work at it: draw every day, make ceramics every day, or whatever your thing is, do it every day. You can't do something every day, practice it, refine it, et cetera, without it developing into something that's truly, an extension of your DNA.

A lot of what a person's style is, is already in there from influences or the stuff that we find beautiful. Our brains are constantly filtering visual stimuli, especially in this day and age. You can't walk down the street without seeing a cool billboard or a mural, or walk into Target and see cool things on t-shirts. We're bombarded, not to mention what's on our phones and what we're scrolling through. Your brain, even if you're not conscious of it, is constantly saying yes, no, yes, no, yes, no. You could walk by a million murals, billboards or whatever, walk into a stationery store, and walk by a million cards, but then you stop at one because it speaks to you. You're like "This is the most beautiful card," or "This is the most beautiful mural." There's a reason: because it's something about your taste that resonates.

So, we're always collecting this and that, and "Oh, who made that? Okay, I'm going to look her up when I get home. Oh, wow, she has a website. Oh, look at her influences. Oh, I'm going to go down that rabbit hole and see who she's influenced by." So, that's where we collect influences, and then, hopefully, we're collecting lots of them so that eventually, our work might look very similar to somebody who we're influenced by, but eventually, we kind of develop our own style, and that's just kind of a normal part of the trajectory.

For me, it was like that. It was just collecting influences, immersing myself in the world of art and design. I like this. I want my work to be more like this. I love the look and feel of this. It's sort of a mishmash of all of those things. Also, just getting better at drawing and executing, and my skills improved. I feel like, in the last five or six years, I kind of arrived in this place where yeah, I have this identifiable style, and it's crazy because people are like "It only happened five or six years ago? You've been making art for 20 years," and I'm like "Yeah, it takes a really long time." I finally don't feel like I'm still searching. That doesn't mean that my work still won't evolve. It doesn't mean that, eventually, I won't land on some new inspiration that makes my work pivot in a different way, but that's what finding your voice feels like, or actually finding that flow.

It's like you arrive at this place where you actually like your work as much as other people do. I started getting my work tattooed on my body and it took me forever to get there because I realized I didn't really like my work very much before, and then I finally was like "Okay, I like it enough to tattoo it on my own body. That's a big deal."

Anj: So, just riffing off of that, I think that a lot of people, myself included, when they're embarking on a new body of work or trying to find their voice, feel intimidated by all the artists/humans out there doing similar things. How do you give advice or even deal with this yourself? That self-doubt and that "I don't know that I have something to visually say?"

Lisa: That's a totally normal feeling. I feel like I kind of, in the last few years, got over a hump, and it was around the time that I felt very kind of solid in my own work. It is so natural to compare yourself to other people. I mean, how can we not? Not just the quality of our work or the ideas behind our work, like "That's such a great idea, why didn't I think of that," kind of thing, but also, on social media, it's like "Oh, so many people like her work. I feel like my work is just as good. Why don't as many people like it? We have the same amount of Instagram followers." There's this whole mind game we play with ourselves.

I realized about three or four years ago that I was spending an inordinate amount of energy having those thoughts, and I think a lot of people would've imagined that someone as far along in my career wouldn't have had them anymore. I would admit to people that I also had anxiety around social media, and people were surprised. They're like "Oh, you seem so confident, so many people love what you do, you have so much engagement," and blah, blah, blah. Yet, I was really struggling, not to the point of it being debilitating, but I would post something that I wanted people to be excited about and maybe they weren't as excited as I wanted them to be, and then I would put too much weight on that instead of my own feelings about whatever it is I was posting. It would bum me out, you know what I mean? I think most people can relate to that.

So, one summer, I started working with a coach, and one of the main things I worked with him on was letting go of these expectations around social media and only posting when I felt like I really had something to say, and posting regardless of whether or not I thought the thing was going to be Instagram-friendly or not. Really being authentic and really honoring my own creative process and my own voice versus whether or not other people liked it, it got engagement, or it sold in my shop, if it was something I was selling. I set my mind to it. It was extremely intentional on my part. I did a lot of work with him, talking through what that was like and how I could shift my perspective.

I also had to get over this impostor syndrome situation, which was "I suck, I'm just lucky to be here," and really, that was related to the social media anxiety. I really turned a corner that year. I wrote about it, I meditated on it, and every time I posted, I promised myself that I was going to honor my own experience and not worry about what other people thought. It took a lot of effort, but I can honestly say I've worked through it. There are moments every now and again where I feel disappointed, there are moments when I still have a slight bit of impostor syndrome, there are moments when I still compare myself to other people. I'm human, but do I dwell on it? Does it control my life? No.

Anj: On the note of putting it all out there, talk to me more about how activism comes into play with your work.

[Editor's Note: This interview and conversation took place before the November 2020 election.]

Lisa: I've integrated so much activism into my postings and to my Instagram in particular, and into my work, I had to really let go of what other people thought because the minute you start doing that, you're going to lose followers, people are going to not agree with you, and I constantly had to say "I'm here to be me. I'm not here to make you comfortable, I'm not here to please you. I'm here to be me." That also really helped me. I've always kind of been open about where I'm coming from ... I say kind of because I've definitely done more lately, but even before the 2016 election, I've been openly gay since I was in my early 20s, I've never hidden it from anywhere, at any job, at any platform. In fact, I talk about it like it's no big deal because I think that's kind of better than anything: just people casually seeing me with my wife and things like that. That's always sort of been part of my life.

My best friend is black. The reason I bring that up is it's an important part of how I sort of show up in the world: that I am in constant interaction every single day with somebody whose experience is vastly different than mine. We are so similar in so many ways, we are both artists, but our experience walking through the world is totally different. That has been personally the most important experience of my life: to attempt to see the world through this person that I love so much. The pain that she experiences, the confusion she experiences, and the anger she experiences, and sort of waking myself up to that. That, in addition to my own sort of being part of a marginalized group myself has made it almost impossible for me not to talk about social justice in my work because it's such an important part of my everyday experience, including my need to do work on myself.

After the 2016 election, I was so angry about the rights of people being taken away and the massive shift in policies in the US government, and I started writing about it. I was like "I don't care what anybody says, this is too important." I feel like it seems like everybody does that now, but I was one of very few artists in the beginning who was willing to just really put her neck out there. So, I started talking about stuff. I started writing about it. Then, it just kind of became something I was known for, and I started getting asked to design things for non-profit organizations and for different marches and initiatives. I started raising money through that work and drawing attention to different causes. I started really loving that work, and it became a really important part of my voice and my identity. Then, in the last year, things have been so wack that it's just times 10 now. Now, I can't imagine ever going back.

It's so important to me personally, and it's so important for the world, that I feel like I have a responsibility. People often say ... "We're not interested in your politics, we just want your pretty pictures," basically. I had to write a couple very intense posts about why I was making this work and that a lot of people argue that all art is political... what you choose not to represent is a political statement in and of itself, so that I was making overtly political work was one thing, but really, all art is political, and that was something that I didn't necessarily even realize until the last five years.

I get a lot of satisfaction and joy from it. I mean, the stuff we're dealing with isn't joyful, but making work to shift people's attitudes or give people something to be hopeful about feels important to me.

Anj: Now shifting gears to your new children's book! Authored by Jennifer Ward and illustrated by you, tell us what inspired it and what the experience was like. Talk to us more about "Round."

Lisa: I think it was the most fun illustration project I've ever worked on and one of the reasons it was fun is because I wasn't attached to the words. I loved the text in the book but the great thing about picture books is that the text is usually really simple.

In this book in particular, there's a narrative, but it's pretty loose. It's not like there are characters. I mean, some characters emerge a little bit in the book in the form of some of the animals reappearing, but it was a really easy place to start because I could really be me, and also honor the text in the book.

Round... I like to call it a lyrical poem all about round things that we find out in the world. Some are literally round and some are more ... well, not figuratively round, but less perfectly round. It's all in nature, and that's one of the things I love to draw are animals and plants. They wanted me to be me. In fact, the cover is like this kind of big explosion of round things arranged really close together. It's like something I would draw for fun, and it actually was inspired by some drawings I had made of things kind of drawn really close together and in an arrangement. And I love the cover so much. Covers are usually the thing I hate most about a book, which sucks because it's the thing that people see on the shelf, and it causes them to open it or not, so I'm hoping it has a good shelf life because the cover is so colorful.

Anj: When you're feeling burnt out, or you're starting a project, what are ways that you reset? What are things that work for you, things that you could recommend to others?

Lisa: When I can, the very first thing I do is take a break. That's not always possible, as you know from somebody who runs a business. Sometimes, you just have to show up and do the work, even when you don't feel like it, and there's a certain amount of grit involved. So, sometimes, I just plow through, force myself to do it, and then I feel better when it's done. If I'm not working on any client projects or client projects that have immediate deadlines, I give myself this passcard. "You don't have to post anything on social media, you don't need to make any new work right now. If you don't feel like it, don't do anything, just go read a book, go take a hike, go shopping," which is, of course, harder now except doing it online because of the pandemic, but go do something else and give yourself permission to not be productive and to kind of give yourself a rest.

Then, during that rest time, what I'll often do is kind of dive into inspiration. I go down a Pinterest rabbit hole or I go to Powell's Books in Portland and plant myself in some aisle that has books about something I'm interested in. Not necessarily art books, maybe history books, picture books, or whatever, and that will sometimes help me kind of get excited about a new direction. Sometimes, I just go to my studio and mess around with clay. I have a kiln. It's not something I'm known for, but I do kind of make and sell ceramics a little bit. It's kind of my fun getting my hands dirty experimental low-pressure nothing hardly ever gets put on Instagram, it's just kind of this fun thing that I do.

I also love to sew. Quilting is one of those things that's so straightforward to me. Aspects of the process take some creativity, but once it's pieced, I can just sit there and stitch and watch Netflix. So, I think taking breaks, allowing yourself to go down rabbit holes of new inspiration that's going to wake you up and light you up a little bit. In the old days, before the pandemic, I would go to museums even, or go shopping in my favorite stores.

Then, the combination of a break, collecting inspiration, maybe getting my hands dirty with some work that's a little bit more tactile and a little less cerebral, eventually, I kind of am able to work through blocks, but they happen to everyone, especially when they're burned out. Even when you're not burned out on art, maybe you're burned out on your kids, the business part, your relationship, or some issue you're having with a family member.

Making art in times of stress is like trying to run in humidity. You can do it, but it feels so exhausting and uncomfortable. We've all been, in the last year, in this really weird time of stress, and I think some people are surprised that they're depressed and anxious, and they can't make art. It's completely normal. Creativity requires a certain amount of relaxation and letting go, and that's really hard when there are so many things in the world that are so hard to wrap your head around.

See more of Lisa Congdon's artwork on Instagram @lisacongdon and shop her books, prints and more at lisacongdon.com.

Break out your basketball jerseys because the Tree Hill Ravens are coming back! Multiple sources have toldVariety that Netflix will develop a sequel series to the beloved CW drama, which ran from 2003-2012. While the series hasn't officially been greenlit yet, multiple series stars have admitted they'd love to have a One Tree Hill reunion and make another installment of the show.

"I just can't see a world where something won't happen," Chad Michael Murray told E! News. "Something will happen. Whether we get everybody together and do a live reading of the show, or we create a new fictional future episode, I don't know what it will be."

"We’re all on board, we’re all friends, it would be the most fun show anybody has ever been on," Barbara Alyn Woods says in an Entertainment Tonight interview.

Here's everything to know about the One Tree Hillsequel series — including the stars rumored to return!

Who's returning to the One Tree Hill sequel?

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One Tree Hill Sequel Cast

According to Variety, Sophia Bush and Hilarie Burton would return as Brooke Davis and Peyton Sawyer, respectively. Daneel Ackles would also return — and all three would serve as executive producers on the TV show alongside Warner Bros. Television, who was behind the original show.

When asked if he would return as Lucas Scott, Chad Michael Murray simply responded with “No clue." Considering previous reports suggested he had "no plans to return," this is promising news to me! He then added he hopes the sequel series “comes together for the fans.”

“I mean, this fandom that has grown, I mean, literally, I was just in Halifax a week ago and, sure enough, I’m running into 11, 12, 13-year-old kids who are in love with Tree Hill,” he continues. “They’re seeing it on Hulu and they’re going, ‘Oh, my gosh.’ It’s stood the test of time and I think to have some new stories, whatever iteration of the show that’s created, I want it for the fans.”

Will One Tree Hill have a season 10?

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One Tree Hill Sequel Plot

One Tree Hill doesn't have a season 10, and it's unclear what kind of sequel this new One Tree Hill series would be. But it looks like star Hilarie Burton is confident the new series would be told through the female experience. "What has been really cool for [the entire cast and crew], they're all really proud of the work that we did back then too," she told Brit + Co in September. And so to see the public support this little show we made 20 years later, that's so special and it's so rare."

“Being able to work with a team of women and look at these stories [and] these characters through a female lens is something that — whether I was doing a reboot or a brand-new show or a different movie at this phase in my life, female teamwork is something that is so vital to me,” she adds in an interview with People. “It is the core of anything I've done that's successful...So I'm excited to be able to team up with people that I look up to, people that I love dearly.”

After the One Tree Hill finale featured all of our favorite characters' kids, I've always wanted to see a One Tree Hill next generation series that brings the kids into high school, which is something other fans have been wanting too!

One viral TikTok imagines an intro for a fictional Next Gen series starring Dylan O'Brien, Candice King, and Vanessa Marano. "Could you imagine this as a reboot with the kids though," one comment reads. "We can only dream."

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And good news for OTH fans! Jana Kramer, who played Alex during the later seasons of the show, teased she thinks Peyton and Brooke "are coming back as moms."

"I had spoken to Hilarie about it, about Alex making an appearance when I knew about it," she tells People. "We had discussed it before the news broke...I think their intention is to bring back people that make sense. And Hilarie was like, 'I never got to meet Alex, so it'd be fun to have us meet,' and I'm like, 'I would love that. Sign me up.' So, we'll see. TBD."

Brooke having to deal with her kids' TikToks? Peyton thinking about the future of art and AI? Mouth leading the Tree Hill podcast empire? There is so much to dive into here. But all in all, One Tree Hill is one TV show that gives me so much hope, no matter how many times I watch it. And I know that bringing back our favorite found family is the perfect way to bring some of that hope right back into today's TV.

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One Tree Hill also starred Chad Michael Murray, James Lafferty, Austin Nichols, Bethany Joy Lenz, Paul Johansson, Barbara Alyn Woods, Lee Norris, and Antwon Tanner. Check back here for the latest updates on the One Tree Hill reboot cast!

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What do you think about the One Tree Hill sequel?! Stay tuned for the latest news and read up on how This One Moment Proves Brooke Davis Is The Best Character On One Tree Hill.

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Thanksgiving dinner is a meal we look forward to all year long. The savory stuffing, the roasted turkey, the cranberry sauce — does it get any better than that? Well if you ask us, the best part are the leftovers! And we're talking about more scrumptious meals than the usual turkey sandwich. We've scoured the internet for different ways to put that surplus of food — trimmings included — to use. These 15 recipes will have you licking your chops.

Amazing Thanksgiving leftovers the entire family will won't mind eating until the first week of December

Butternut Bakery

Pumpkin Cupcakes

Don't throw away that pumpkin purée just yet! You can use it to make delicious pumpkin cupcakes the entire family will keep coming back for. Once you add in a little pumpkin pie spice, flour, baking soda, dark brown sugar, and more goodies, you'll have 12 sweet treats to munch after Thanksgiving.

P.S. You may want to have someone else bake this recipe a second time so you can have 24 cupcakes!

Cozy Cravings

Butternut Squash and Bacon Crostini

Your family will become a huge fan of crostinis once they taste this recipe. Between the butternut squash, ricotta cheese, and bacon, everyone will be eating sweet as well as savory mini sandwiches.

Munching with Mariyah

Curried Pumpkin Red Lentil Soup

Blend your leftover pumpkin and squash with coconut milk, red curry paste, ginger, and more veggies for the heartiest lentil soup you've ever tasted. Everyone will be looking to recreate this dish for a taste of lentils once they eat it, er, sip it.

Brit + Co

Gluten-Free Frittata Recipe

Bring your Thanksgiving turkey leftovers together with some cheese, peppers, and onions for a delicious frittata. You can eat it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner!

The Butter Half

Thanksgiving Leftover Pop Tarts

These savory pop tarts are filled with cranberry sauce, stuffing, mashed potatoes, and bits of tender turkey, then drizzled with gravy for a snack or meal that will knock your socks off. (via The Butter Half)

Foodess

Leftover Turkey Pot Pie

Put the sandwiches on hold, because this turkey pot pie is the *only* way to use those turkey leftovers to their greatest potential.

A Sweet Pea Chef

Leftover Turkey Salad With Cranberry Vinaigrette

Take your comfort food and turn it into something nutritious by topping salad with leftover turkey and a vinaigrette made with leftover cranberries.

Spices in My DNA

Thanksgiving Leftovers Everything Bagel Sandwich

This recipe stuffs your everything bagel with a poached egg, cranberry sauce, stuffing, mashed potatoes, and turkey.

The Seasoned Mom

Aunt Bee's Leftover Turkey Casserole

It's cozy casserole season, so this recipe is the perfect way to use up that leftover turkey by adding it to a pasta bake that is rich, creamy, and jam-packed with flavor.

Lively Table

Turkey and Wild Rice Soup

Nothing soothes the soul better than a steamy bowl of soup like this, filled to the brim with tender shredded turkey, nourishing veggies, and a generous dollop of Greek yogurt for extra smoothness.

The Cookie Recipe

Deep-Fried Loaded Mashed Potato Bites

If you don't know what to do with that heap of extra mashed potatoes, we've got you covered with these crispy potato, bacon, and cheese-filled bites of glory.

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Thanksgiving on a Roll

If you want ALL the carbs, this recipe sandwiches turkey and all the fixin's between a fresh roll and it. Is. Magical.

Whitney Bond

Turkey Fajita Rice Bowls

Kick things up a notch and put a healthy spin on your leftover turkey with these veggie-filled fajita rice bowls.

Yes to Yolks

Thanksgiving Leftovers Pierogi

This recipe smashes the traditional pierogi together with leftover Thanksgiving goodies for a fun and seasonal spin on a classic.

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Vegetarian Meatloaf and Cranberry Thanksgiving Leftover Sandwich

Vegetarians can enjoy Thanksgiving to the max too, and if anything proves it, it's this stacked meatless 'wich that swaps the usual turkey for plant-based meatloaf.

Pickled Plum

Leftover Turkey Dinner Hash

These turkey-filled hash patties will make brunch fanatics swoon with their festive flavor and golden crisp exterior.

Bless Her Heart Y'all

Turkey Teriyaki Stir-Fry

This feast doesn't just give you a healthful meal after gorging on holiday eats, but it also serves as a weeknight wonder, clocking in at just 15 minutes from start to finish!

Chef de Home

Turkey Tetrazzini With Mushrooms

Putting that leftover turkey to use never looked so good with this creamy mushroom and pasta-filled tetrazzini.

Half Baked Harvest

Thanksgiving Leftovers Croque Madame

This Thanksgiving leftovers croque Madame sandwich is an excellent way to serve breakfast on Black Friday. After all, you'll need an extra boost from the fried eggs to get you through your mad dash at the mall!

Vikalinka

Butternut Squash Casserole

Not sure what to do with all the leftover butternut squash? Make a cheesy au gratin casserole!

Crowded Kitchen

Vegan Cornbread Stuffing

Don't throw away your cornbread after Thanksgiving! You can use what's leftover to bake vegan cornbread stuffing to give it a toasted yet flavorful taste.

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Pumpkin Salad

This tasty and crunchy pumpkin salad is a great option to make if you're confused about what to do with your leftover pumpkins.

Averie Cooks

Caramel Apple Gingerbread Cookie Cups

Let's say you bought one too many apples for the apple pie you baked. Instead of lamenting over your 'mishap,' use what's leftover after Thanksgiving to make caramel apple gingerbread cookie cups!

Completely Delicious

Thanksgiving Leftovers Pizza

This delicious leftover pizza is a thoughtful option for anyone who swears they're tired of eating leftover Thanksgiving turkey after a couple of days.

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Creamy Sweet Potato Soup

Chances are it'll be cold the week of Thanksgiving so use your leftover sweet potatoes to create this creamy soup. It's good for the soul!

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